News

We will publish news and updates from time to time - to have your say use one of the input forms, or better still join the online Forum*

Going forward the plan is to form a small steering group, with a cross-section of interest and skills, to formulate a plan for the Touring Cyclist Club.

* Most of the Forum is open, public access but there is a Private Area for registered members only where some restricted content is published.


 

16 July 2017 : in the light of the issues highlighted in the NEWS section relating to lack of volunteers to help develop the club we have decided to suspend the online membership system pending decisions on the future of the club.   That may appear counter-productive but we don't want to take money for something that may not continue.

To express an interest in joining please email:   This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

7 August 2017 : the membership system may have sent renewals to some founder members - in view of the statement at 16 July 2017 and the continued lack of response we have suspended renewals - PLEASE DO NOT RENEW.

 

 
Following our update on 28 April 2017 (broadcast, published on the Forum and the website News) we have been very disappointed to receive just one volunteer to help at the York Rally, and just one content contribution (on 2 June).
 
Having had so much encouragement at the start for us to get something going we expected people to come forward to assist and contribute - and not perhaps just pay a token initial subscription and wait for the new club to emerge.
 
Given the lack of help and the potential cost of a presence at the York Rally we have had to take the decision not to attend this year.
 
We shall make this appeal one final time. To be blunt, if TCC members want this club to continue then they have to help out by volunteering to support TCC and/or provide web content.   There have been a few positive posts and suggestions in the Forum but, at present, they are simply not viable financially or achievable.
 
We have put a lot of effort and time into  providing the opportunity and platform for the club to get started, but without TCC member help we simply cannot continue for ever.   A provisional deadline was set, we really don't want to lose the initial momentum.
 
Rob & Dennis
 
Note: over the next few weeks we will both be on cycle touring trips so responses to Forum posts or other messages may be delayed.

Following initial expressions of interest from over 420 people, 160 registered Forum members and 288 members joining to contribute modest seed funding these notes are summary of where we are as at today, 28 April 2017.

A lot of effort has been put in by the founders, with contributions from a small initial group - however progress has been slow and thwarted in some areas.

1   Insurance   

The most significant requirement that potential TCC members identified was personal third-party insurance on a par with that available from other cycling organisations. It was expected that TCC membership would be offered at a basic rate and a slightly higher rate to include third-party insurance. 

After numerous enquiries it seems that all roads lead to just one broker/provider, Butterworth Spengler.  We experienced considerable delay in even getting a reply to our enquiry for a group scheme where we expected to have hundreds of members - eventually we received an answer:  Thank you for your enquiry, unfortunately we are unable to assist due to agreements we have with our other associations. 

There was also a proposal from another insurer that agreed to provide a suitable group policy for third-party insurance.  We decided to proceed but when the project got beyond the sales people it turned out that the cover was only available as part of a member package that was really for cycle theft with third-party as an afterthought . . . not only was that unsuitable it was also (as most cycle theft insurances) at exorbitant rates.

The Tandem Club membership on the face of it offers insurance within its very modest annual membership fee but we were told by the provider that it is “cover of last resort” and not a “given”  - we understand that it is based on the probability that any member would have cover from another organisation, or as is almost universal - cover under a household policy.

So, at present we are at a brick wall with insurance.

2   Resources & Forum

Quite a lot of ideas emerged from the meeting we had with a small group but almost no contributions of resource or ideas have been received from members.

A hard core of Forum members are posting with some useful answers and friendly banter.   The Forum will be split shortly into “open” (i.e. anyone can read posts and Registered FORUM members can post) and “closed” (that is only visible to TCC members, who may also post - these members will of course have access to the whole Forum)

We’re delighted that Chris Juden & Mark Waters have agreed in principle to provide their expertise in matters technical and touring within the TCC members’ area of the Forum.

3   Promotion

Creating an email list of the expressions of interest, TCC Forum members and TCC members has been ongoing - with several mailshots to ask for contributions for website resource and ideas.  We have also issued press releases that have gained cover and generated enquiries.

We looked at a number of events to promote and stimulate interest in TCC and the York Rally at the end of June seems to be a good opportunity with a presence, banner, leaflets etc and people to answer questions about the potential club.

In order to make the event worthwhile to TCC we need some volunteers on the day - looking at the schedule we really need 6 or 7 people to cover the whole period (based on half a day per person).   At present we have a provisional booking but can only confirm it and commit to the expenditure if we have volunteers - so please email  This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. with offers of help, stating which day(s) would suit you.

There is a cycle festival at Clitheroe at the end of May but from information received so far on the programme it will be somewhat niche and we don’t feel it would justify the entry costs and expense we would incur.  The Mildenhall Rally is still some way off and we expect to make a decision attendance on the basis of experience at York.

4   Funding

The initial funding from TCC membership at a token £4 enabled us to cover the legal costs of incorporating the limited company, website costs, payment fees and room hire for the inaugural meeting together with a supply of leaflets and a TCC promotional banner.   No “people costs” have been incurred, nor do we expect any for the foreseeable future.

The Companies Act requires us to produce and publish accounts and this will be carried out within the statutory timescale, and published on the website.

5   The bottom line

The founders are keen to pursue formation of the club and meet the apparent demand, notwithstanding the insurance issue.

BUT without contribution and help we are going to find it very difficult to gain traction and develop the club.

Beside volunteers for the events we urgently need content for the website sections. Write up your recent tour info, route, where stayed, what kit you used, bike transport, the best sights, climate, people you met etc.

With a summer of cycling ahead of us we have decided to review the position as at 30 September 2017 and make a decision on viability or otherwise by 31 October 2017 - we really are hoping that we can continue but we can’t do it alone.


 

This content has been sent everyone that has expressed an interest, joined the Forum or is a paid-up Touring Cyclist Club member.  Full notes have been sent to all paid-up members

The inaugural meeting on Saturday 19 November 2016 covered a wide range of topics and enabled us to prioritise actions and development of the club.

The key outcomes are:

•    To make the Website, and its Forum, the hub of the TCC community

•    To divide both the Website content and Forum into public (free access) and member only (premium content) areas

•    For TCC to focus upon providing quality information about Routes & Technical Information in the form of an indexed and searchable resource library; and maintaining links to appropriate providers of goods and services relevant to cycle touring.

•    For TCC to offer its members a low cost personal Third Party Liability Insurance product as an optional add-on to basic club membership.

•    For TCC to provide its members a mechanism whereby tour ideas can be put forward and touring companions sought.

•    For TCC to provide its members with the capability to organise informal local rides.

•    Develop a network of local TCC Champions, (broadly) one per UK standard region , who will promote TCC and its activities locally.


In order to fund the modest costs that the club expects to incur a membership rate of £7.00 for new members will apply from 1 January 2017.

New members joining before 31 Dec 2016, will be able to secure Founder Membership until 31 Dec 2017, at £4.00 and existing Founder members’ renewal date will be 31 December 2017

As always we welcome YOUR comments and ideas!

Thanks again for your support and enthusiasm for the Touring Cyclist Club.

Rob & Dennis
co-founders


 

These details are as at 1 December 2016 - there will be some changes in the coming months. 
 
For reasons of efficiency (really!) there are 3 separate online entities for the Touring Cyclist Club, and a Facebook page - to explain, and details of registration or membership: 
 
TOURING CYCLIST CLUB - Forum:
 
The Forum is open access for anyone to READ ONLY all posts - with the exception of the Sub-boards under the "Private Matters (Visible to Forum members only)" line.
 
ONLY Registered Forum Members are able to post/reply to posts and use Personal Messaging (the Forum's internal member-to-member email facility)
 
Forum Registration is open to all (NOT limited to Touring Cyclist Club members)   New registrants apply to join the Forum with their preferred Username (cannot be the registrant's email address) and a Password . There is a human approval process (normally within 12-18 hours) to ensure that potential hackers and spammers are not approved as Forum members  
 
Forum Members are NOT members of the Touring Cyclist Club and Paid-up Touring Cyclist Club members are NOT automatically registered as Forum members.
 
TOURING CYCLIST CLUB - Membership:
 
Membership of the Touring Cyclist Club is managed securely for us by PaySubsOnline handling payments - PaySubsOnline manages membership renewals and members are able to amend their details if neccessary direct with them.
 
New members receive a Welcome Message that has a link to create a separate member account with PaySubsOnline - the member's ID/Username is the email that the member registered with and on accessing PaySubsOnline for the first time will be asked to create a password.
 
TOURING CYCLIST CLUB - Website    [This will change early in 2017 when TCC member-only content is published]
 
The main website at   www.touringcyclistclub.org.uk  has (limited) content that is open to all.
 
There is no TCC member log-in at present . . . the log-in box on the Home page is only for the website administrators' use.
 
When TCC Paid-up member-only content is available members will be provided with a Username & Password (the latter can be reset to the member's choice)
 
TOURING CYCLIST CLUB - Facebook page
 

The TCC Facebook page is for club announcements ONLY - "following" is open to all, with an approval process, but followers are unable to post or respond to posts.  [The reason being that TCC has its own structured Forum which provides a more useful and effective platform, and caters for those that do not use Facebook]

. . . and while we're looking at online stuff - please make sure that your email client has the main email addresses that the club uses to ensure messages aren't filtered:
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